CALLING MECHANICS! Is This CV Shaft Still Usable?

"Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again." (sir-stig) 10/24/2014 at 11:16 • Filed to: Car Repairs

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I changed the clutch and flywheel on my 2000 Honda Accord and while putting it back together, I must have not seated the right side CV shaft properly, and while I was testing the drive train on stands I heard kinda a crunch, so I pulled off the right side cv shaft and saw this :(

Is this still usable? A remanufactured one is going to be about $100 with taxes, and I would rather avoid that extra cost. I do plan on selling the car once everything is working, but I also don't want to strand someone down the line.

Nibby > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:18

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Wow, I can't believe you'd post a picture of your shaft without warning.

505Turbeaux > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:25

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unless I am missing something those splines look ok

bradleyjames518 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:26

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I would not reuse that...I would replace it and flush the rear extensively.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:33

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We are talking inner CV to the transaxle, yes? I don't see anything wrong with the splines. Or are you referring to the metal above the splines?

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > 505Turbeaux 10/24/2014 at 11:39

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The very end section of splines used to look like the large section, it was ground down.

These were what broke off.

Mattbob > bradleyjames518 10/24/2014 at 11:42

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I can definitely see flushing the rear extensively, but if he puts it back in and gets good engagement, There is still a lot of splined section left.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > bradleyjames518 10/24/2014 at 11:42

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What makes you say that? Are the end splines used for more than lining it up? What is the point of the ring? I really have limited knowledge on driveline components... Can I use motor oil for the flush, or should it all be MT fluid?

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Nibby 10/24/2014 at 11:44

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Well everyone wanted to see D's so much, I figured just the tip would be okay.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Trevor Slattery, ACTOR 10/24/2014 at 11:45

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The small section above the ring used to also have splines, they are now in the transmission...

505Turbeaux > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:46

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as long as the locking ring is retained well and you dont have to jam it in there you should be fine

deekster_caddy > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:46

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The ring 'clicks' it into place when it's seated all the way. I don't think it's a big deal on the shaft, but I'd be very concerned about the rest of the missing pieces and what else may have happened inside the trans.

I would only flush it with the same fluid it takes. But a flush may not be enough. Is there a pan to drop on that trans or is it all from the side? You want to fish around in there with a magnet and make sure all the pieces came out.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:53

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Ugh....do a flush and fill, put that axle back in and drive gingerly to the car parts store if you don't have another set of wheels. But, yeah...it has to go.

(edit) if you have one of those magnets on a sticks, I would poke it around in the hole before I do anything. You wanna get as much of that metal out of there as you can.

bradleyjames518 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 11:56

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Every inch of those splines are used, if there wasn't a need for something that costs a fraction of a cent on a vehicle it wouldn't be there...The ring secures the CV in place and prevents lateral movement of the axle. It should be replaced each time you remove/replace an axle. Cheap insurance to make sure this exact scenario doesn't occur.

As far as flushing it, use the cheapest Honda MTfluid you can find until you no longer see chunks of metal coming from the drain.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > deekster_caddy 10/24/2014 at 11:58

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It doesn't have a pan, it splits apart. I'll get a magnet and try and get it all out, then flush a quart or two, and then check with the magnet again.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Trevor Slattery, ACTOR 10/24/2014 at 12:00

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I still have the Fiesta, so I don't need to drive on it. How much should I flush it with?

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 12:05

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At least a full drain and fill's worth.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > bradleyjames518 10/24/2014 at 12:06

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Poop. If I get a new CV Shaft will the ring come with it?

bradleyjames518 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 12:12

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Yes, it does come with a new ring.

It should also have a magnetic drain plug, like I said keep flushing it with cheapo fluid until it looks clean and I would even recommend driving it a few miles to heat the fluid up and flush again. Then fill it up with your choice of fluid and count your blessings you didn't have an automatic because that would have been an expensive mistake.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > bradleyjames518 10/24/2014 at 13:02

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I talked to the Honda parts department and they thought motor oil should work to flush it with, and then to fill it with the MT fluid. Honda only came out with MT fluid in 2001.

bradleyjames518 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 13:05

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Whatever you want to flush it with would be good, just make sure that you get all of what you can out.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 13:53

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You'd probably be Okay, but its not a good idea. If you absoultey have to its probably fine, But if you have the cash, Id replace it

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 10/24/2014 at 14:01

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I technically have the cash, but this repair is rapidly approaching the shop quotes...

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 14:05

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What percentage of the repair you would be saving if you do it yourself?

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 10/24/2014 at 14:08

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Oh I meant the price I got quoted for the shop to do my clutch.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 14:10

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Oh, you could probably wait to replace it until after the clutch repair, But I'd replace it asap

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 10/24/2014 at 14:19

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I already have the clutch and flywheel replaced, it was while I was putting everything back together that this happened.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 14:21

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You should probably replace it then, you already have it out, save yourself some time

DragginHard > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/24/2014 at 16:20

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The outer splines (the part that's ground) serve to not allow the axle slip out of the ring. The ring will lock alright, but if the axle has enough lateral force, it will slide out of the tranny. Then good luck pulling the snap ring out of the diff. My $.02, replace the shaft.